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    Opinions on new darkclaw

    New DC:
    Darkclaw: 3SE: Until the start of your next turn, your weapons gain +2 attack and Darkclaw has ambush.

    I like the direction you guys trying to give darkclaw, however it feels underpowered now.

    His new abilitie is more fit for board control than to going solo, however the fact that he needs a weapon to be effective makes it a little underpowered compared to most shadow heroes.

    Allyless DC is not playable anymore competitive because mages will eat him alive with DD, and he will need to clear the board after each activation or just lose the game against most ally strategies, so he is unable to focus on attacking the hero anymore.
    Still he can be played with backup allies to seal the deal, wich is fine.
    However ambush alone feels really weak for an ability that can be countered (any sort of weapon/item destruction) and needs to have a weapon in play to be effective...

    Right now DC feels like a weaker version of amber or gwen due to his card pool...

    I think DC needs a little love in order to viable, id like to hear feedback from the community about him.
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    id like to see this:
    DC: 4SE: Until the end of your turn, your weapons gain +2 attack and whenever Darkclaw deals dmg, you draw a card.
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    Some good analysis there. I am just not sure how much more effort and time can the DT and PFG devoted themselves to re-testing/changing DC.

    Likewise, I feel some love is in order but I am happy to let DC slide off the tier 1/2 list now - someone needs to be at the bottom - it's inevitable. I feel while DC might not be Tier 1/2 but at Tier 3, he's still fun and playable and probably fun and challenging to play on Quick games vs newer players or as a custom challenge vs other players.

    Edit: I am ok with DC falling off the top heroes list because right now, I can see 16 out of 24 heroes being viable to win tourneys - that's a HUGE improvement from the "Big 4" of 1.29.
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    Cast shadow font, deal 4 more dmg as well as draw 2 cards..
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    Quote Originally Posted by p1p3p0k3r View Post
    id like to see this:
    DC: 4SE: Until the end of your turn, your weapons gain +2 attack and whenever Darkclaw deals dmg, you draw a card.
    That would be over OP, ◯.◯
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    i think it's ok, DC would still require a weapon and he'll forever struggle with balance of allies and weapons - good room for deck-building skills.

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    and of course he will draw 2 cards in mid to late game
    and be very behind early game only drawing 1
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    With this ability, you have all the room which used to be for Bazaar and Bad Santa free to have more Weapon, and with speed strike, that would end by deal 6 damages, draw two cards, next turn, cast shadow font 4cc -> deal 6 damage & draw 2 cards again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentuequi View Post
    With this ability, you have all the room which used to be for Bazaar and Bad Santa free to have more Weapon, and with speed strike, that would end by deal 6 damages, draw two cards, next turn, cast shadow font 4cc -> deal 6 damage & draw 2 cards again...
    yeah, majiya's 'draw card' ability was thought to be op.. and she didnt combine it with speedstrike and shadowfont either. it was 2 SE. complain about that and then give darkclaw this ability?
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    he also need a weapon to be viable, and wulven doesnt have any card draw to keep up with other decks...
    I think my proposal makes it a bit strong, but he need an strong abilitie or he is just not gonna be played at all in competitive scene
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