I'm alright with Spirit Warden, it stops the loop. But honestly PoU just discourages everybody from playing elemental based stuff and not only that, it discourages people who want to use FT...

I should put this in my sig lol

The discussion is over already lol it's quite obvious that some people who I could mention are bent on being extremely short sighted and stubborn. I agree that FT...

And you couldn't have said that instead of "I lol'd at this"? What you mentioned to Zhou is a lot more neutral than your above statement. Anybody could sense the sarcasm from your original statement....

Lol just stop there isn't any point arguing anymore everyone is set on their changes. If you don't like it just like me just change your main decks to human. I must say that I've had a lot of fun...

Just want to shoot a question out to everybody in this thread. Not implying anything but IF PoU or Spirit Warden becomes the new meta where almost all human decks in QM run them as a result of this...

It shouldn't protect the hero as well. I remember somewhere in this thread that we agreed that protecting allies from fire/ice damage was good enough already, protecting the hero too is just...

Disagreed I use him in Maj Portal any Mage control deck can use him I'm still pretty worried about Mages though. Seriously Fireball will only do 3 damage now... On the other hand ill probably start...

We may have to use Nishaven from now on. Sigh... Oh and Voltaires Ring too

Lets hope the new Paladin doesn't totally kill Mages, Darkwood Wraith, Molten Destroyer, Frosted Urigon and a lot of other stuff....

Hmmmm didn't know that. What are their IGNs? I wanna study their (extremely long) games

This is starting to sound a lot like Millstalker which I honestly think is a lot worse. You have your boardwipe recursion( Crescendo+Master Smith) and ally recursion(SKs) and I think that the...

Honestly, if that's the only card left in the deck, it's safe to assume that the other player will also be close to decking out, by then they'll be hardly enough allies to be worth a boardwipe, by...

But not an instant one, it'll be more delayed. They'll be a smal time window before the next FT pops up and by then the opponent will know that a FT recursion deck is being run so he will be able to...

How about it has " when FT would be returned to your hand(Retreat,SK) it is shuffled into your deck instead and you draw a card" IMO it stops the loop but also wouldn't nerf it too badly.

And you won't even get pay to win complaints because according to Wulven's screwed up booster pack probability system, the actual probability will be closer to 1 in 10000 boosters so no one will be...

He does raise a valid point that most human counters are really awkward. Btw, ever thought of our good old friend Sandworms?

Make him more versatile. The way i see it, cards that are taking up slots in the deck are being used not only as tech but also because they work great against all decks and not only specific ones....

I love FT so I'm afraid I can't agree to nerf him :P. I must add that IMO, FT is the big guy that balanced Shadow. I mean without his boardwiping capabilities, do you think we'll have Solo Baduruu?...