Frostmare secret

Hello Guy
my favorite hero is Gravebone
but that's not anything with this

I just browse through card shadowera/cards.php
to find something for undead gravebone deck
that I find this guy
Frostmare

Normal right ?
Fire snake stat with haste


but that's not the point

yesterday I read wowwiki.com
I read a lot cuz I like it (too bad shadow era don't have this much to read)

and I just found this

http://www.wowwiki.com/Invincible


Frostmare is Invincible
Arthas' personal steed

FYI Arthas is one of the powerful individual in WoW universe


FYI : Jian Guo (Frostmare artist) used same picture as Invincible fanart
http://breathing2004.deviantart.com/...ible-153461160


ps.look like morbid acolyte is wow fanart too

I knew about Acolyte from a while ago, but for goodness sake, does this mean we're going to have to change Frostmare's art too? Cause that is the exact picture. I mean, I know it's fan art, but still. I think Wulven really needs to start being more careful with arts by that artist, because many of his piecies are WoW based, and they've already had issues with it, either they need to not use his art (which would be bad cause they'd lose an otherwise excellent artist) or actually get him to do pieces specifically for SE.

Look at this bloodthirsty
breathing2004.deviantart.com/art/blood-prince-159251053

And this the ravager card
breathing2004.deviantart.com/art/the-darkstone-king-124304749

The pheonix urigon
breathing2004.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=120

Wow of prophet
breathing2004.deviantart.com/art/a-sudden-breeze-262490799

Loest
breathing2004.deviantart.com/art/the-One-who-keeps-secrets-205758112


Priest card
breathing2004.deviantart.com/art/Relief-141190229

Shadow ally
breathing2004.deviantart.com/art/bone-of-the-ocean-104481494

wait, so it was done as fan art, and not used by Blizzard commercially, and it represents this guy's interpretation of a frozen horse from something he read, and then they decide to make a card with a frozen horse, and so he uses the same art, minus the guy standing next to it.

I don't really see the issue - sure it's out there online, but I don't believe it violates any IP to have a picture of a frozen horse on your card. The artist already did the work, and it's appropriate here, so why shouldn't he get himself some compensation for it?

The fact that the picture has some history to it, and a quirky story behind it just seems like a weird easter egg to me.

^The same artist also did the arts for Loest and Phoenix Urigon, which will soon be changed because of this exact reason. Doesn't technically matter if it's "fan art" if Blizzard were to say that the characters depicted in were too similar, Wulven could be in trouble. I guess Acolyte and Bloodthirsty were fine, but there was also that original Battle Hardened art (which I'm not sure was this same artist or not), but it was still too similar to a Diablo character, despite not being actual art from Diablo.

I don't know about copyright much
just asked my artist friend

she said it's ok to do this.
it's not against any law
since it's just fan art so it's still belong to artist

should wulven tell blizzard to remove them from wowwiki ?

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Originally Posted by miloboy

should wulven tell blizzard to remove them from wowwiki ?

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Wulven doesn't tell Blizzard to do anything. Why? Cause Blizzard is an enormous and hugely known company, Wulven is still very much a small indie company.

As for the art "belonging to the artist", yes the art itself may belong to him, but the likeness within doesn't. Invincible is still Blizzard's character, and they could take action based on that. Especially with how Wulven is for sure changing the Loest and Phoenix Urigon arts for this reason, both of which I believe where also technically "fan-arts", as well as the aforementioned original Battle Hardened art. The art may be the artist's, but not necessarily the likeness within.

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Originally Posted by tman507

As for the art "belonging to the artist", yes the art itself may belong to him, but the likeness within doesn't. Invincible is still Blizzard's character, and they could take action based on that. Especially with how Wulven is for sure changing the Loest and Phoenix Urigon arts for this reason, both of which I believe where also technically "fan-arts", as well as the aforementioned original Battle Hardened art. The art may be the artist's, but not necessarily the likeness within.

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My artist friend said about this too.
the Arthas and his likeness can not be use
but everyone can draw ice horse.

I never seen phoenix urigon / loest old art.

ps. my friend never know both shadow era and wow.

I'm closing this thread because, like the last one that covers similar ground, this is not going to achieve anything useful. We just get a bunch of speculation about whether some wrongdoing has happened. Had someone mentioned Frostmare in that other thread, then it would already be covered.

If you have concerns about some art, please send it to Kyle. Loest's art is being changed. I don't know about Phoenix Urigon at the moment. Anything else that needs to change will. Thanks.