Digital Playmats??

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03-15-2013, 12:48 AM
Manila Gorilla

Digital Playmats??

Question, next bonus level says all pre-orders receive "digital playmats" actually here is the cut and copy version so I am not miss wording anything,

Level 4 - LOCKED - $80,000
Full set of DP digital playmats! That's right, Shadow Era will soon feature a variety of digital playmats that will customize the look of your playing area. Pre-order customers will get all the new DP playmats for free! (minimum 10 playmats)

Okay so my question is,

Are these playmats for the digital game (which seem a bit weird to me)

Or

Are these actually playmats that are "digital" meaning they have like built in digital counters and lights for my physical deck?

To those who might think this is a strange question I am only asking because if its the later of the two I will be doing some extra pre-ordering.
If its the first of the two ehhhh, whatever... Hahah
03-15-2013, 01:05 AM
Grumbaki

Yeah, the new bonus level is an iPad with a special app called playmat. Put your cards on it and they are recognized. All calculations (Hp, SE) are made automatically.

Be realistic, we are still waiting on the first playmats. One year wait for rubber,fabric and a pic on top.
03-15-2013, 01:13 AM
a player

Thus far, everything they've offered for the bonus levels has been 'digital' in the sense that it goes with the online game and not the physical game.

I'm pretty sure there would be a lot more hype if they were touting an electro-physical real-life device such as you describe. There isn't really a lot of call for single purpose electronic devices, where it is so easy to develop an app. A browser-based app could probably be made to run on any laptop or smartphone and keep track of everything.

Before I preordered I wished for digital bonuses. Now that I'm anticipating the physical cards, I wish they'd include some physical bonuses. Sleeves and playmats and counters are much more useful in physical play, and they seem much cooler than any online stuff.

Your idea seems really cool, from that perspective, but I'm afraid it will probably never happen unless you develop it yourself.
03-15-2013, 01:27 AM
Manila Gorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumbaki

Yeah, the new bonus level is an iPad with a special app called playmat. Put your cards on it and they are recognized. All calculations (Hp, SE) are made automatically.

Be realistic, we are still waiting on the first playmats. One year wait for rubber,fabric and a pic on top.

Wow dude use sarcasm much?

I understand that we never received our playmats from the first order, reason for getting DP booster boxes instead,
I just thought that perhaps Kyle had figured out a way maybe went with a new production company to have a bunch made up and ready for this pre-order, with all the bonuses offered in the first pre order it doesn't seem unreasonable that a playmat with digital counters (like a digital clock not a fucking iPad) built into the hero slot could be offered this time around.
03-15-2013, 01:28 AM
NPB

They're digital playmats. As it says, it allows you to customize your play area. So get rid of the standard in-game background for matches played in the digital game and replace it with something else, just like replacing the digital card backs with digital card sleeves. It's just a cosmetic tweak.
03-15-2013, 01:29 AM
Manila Gorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by a player

Thus far, everything they've offered for the bonus levels has been 'digital' in the sense that it goes with the online game and not the physical game.

I'm pretty sure there would be a lot more hype if they were touting an electro-physical real-life device such as you describe. There isn't really a lot of call for single purpose electronic devices, where it is so easy to develop an app. A browser-based app could probably be made to run on any laptop or smartphone and keep track of everything.

Before I preordered I wished for digital bonuses. Now that I'm anticipating the physical cards, I wish they'd include some physical bonuses. Sleeves and playmats and counters are much more useful in physical play, and they seem much cooler than any online stuff.

Your idea seems really cool, from that perspective, but I'm afraid it will probably never happen unless you develop it yourself.

Yeah the bonuses this time around really doesn't make me go running for my CC, maybe when more physical stuff starts up.
03-15-2013, 01:32 AM
Demnchi

I think they're trying to avoid physical bonuses because of what happened last time. Honestly, I think offering no physical bonuses wasn't a good idea.
03-15-2013, 01:41 AM
Grumbaki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manila Gorilla

Wow dude use sarcasm much?

I understand that we never received our playmats from the first order, reason for getting DP booster boxes instead,
I just thought that perhaps Kyle had figured out a way maybe went with a new production company to have a bunch made up and ready for this pre-order, with all the bonuses offered in the first pre order it doesn't seem unreasonable that a playmat with digital counters (like a digital clock not a fucking iPad) built into the hero slot could be offered this time around.

Sarcasm is sometimes needed.

Wulven was unable to get simple stuff produced. Forget electronics. In a general way forget physical bonuses (except maybe foils at last stages) as they are a recipe for disaster. Kyle learnt his lesson from cotc preorder, that all.
03-15-2013, 02:03 AM
Berdugo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demnchi

I think they're trying to avoid physical bonuses because of what happened last time. Honestly, I think offering no physical bonuses wasn't a good idea.

+1 honestly.
03-15-2013, 02:07 AM
Atomzed

Digital playmats. While I don't like it, I think it's a step in the right directions. Wulven need more of such cosmetics stuff for purchase. I think Seth suggested it a long long time ago.

Though I wish they could give us some exclusive playmat that only pre order can get.

Here is a recent example of an exclusive playmat for kickstarters... For another very popular game Ascension.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/15/4a7ubada.jpg
03-15-2013, 04:39 AM
Vincenzo749

pls let it be tokens next level! it would really help the complete playset orders :)
03-15-2013, 07:07 AM
Geckt

If everything has gotta be digital, I would really like to see the game go the whole nine yard with customisable personal avatar in game as well.

Edit: I do know it has been implemented about the in game avatars but I just liked things customisable. playmats whatever, keep things fresh since the digital form is fixed.
03-15-2013, 07:33 AM
Index

Avatars？Hmm, gogogo moe girl avatars!
03-15-2013, 07:50 AM
Rayzie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demnchi

I think they're trying to avoid physical bonuses because of what happened last time. Honestly, I think offering no physical bonuses wasn't a good idea.

Agreed. Offering tins and mats was too expensive and silly, but I don't see how the exclusive art cards and such could have set them back too much.
03-15-2013, 03:58 PM
Caitlyn0

still waiting for Physical Foil SETS to be a bonus. the only thing i want really.
03-15-2013, 04:13 PM
MZAAZM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caitlyn0

still waiting for Physical Foil SETS to be a bonus. the only thing i want really.

This is the only thing that will make me pre-order this dp set.
03-15-2013, 04:27 PM
Raphael Majere

Just IMHO:

The bonus Pre-order gifts are way better the last time. Yes, I know they ran into production problems but I suspect that many people don't play or chose not to purchase physical cards is partly because without a doubt, peripherals like play mats, sleeves, some form of life counters/beads/dice for hero/allies atk and health and a system of counting shadow energy are needed.

It's like buying a coffee machine without buying the coffee/cappuccino/latte pods/capsules.

Yes, it's a Much better idea not to promise the production of those peripherals this time round, but it does not mean it's a smart idea. I am fairly sure some people did the Pre order for cotc because they thought they could play the game easily with the supply of peripherals to make the game playable.

One could play mtg 'nude' with just some coins but it's not possible with SE.

(I would love to see status disk/tokens/chips, I.e. 2 frozen token = 2 rd of being frozen)
03-15-2013, 04:31 PM
Gondorian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caitlyn0

still waiting for Physical Foil SETS to be a bonus. the only thing i want really.

You'll need to buy the complete set to get them this time, Caitlyn.
03-15-2013, 04:47 PM
miloboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raphael Majere

One could play mtg 'nude' with just some coins but it's not possible with SE.

Sadly but True
03-15-2013, 04:58 PM
Gondorian

Quote:

Originally Posted by miloboy

Sadly but True

Colored bits of paper work fine if you don't have counters or dice.

Or Lego!
03-15-2013, 04:59 PM
Geckt

I have to lug around glass beads to make sure the games are played smoothly. Even tho counter apps on phones are convenient they can't keep track of all the allies' status.

I have to agree with Raph there. Some small chip or indicators are cool.
03-15-2013, 05:38 PM
Raphael Majere

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geckt

I have to lug around glass beads to make sure the games are played smoothly. Even tho counter apps on phones are convenient they can't keep track of all the allies' status.

Allies' life and atk were a headache initially, until Berdugo (later OHG) showed us dice. :)

Chessex makes dice packed in a very nifty small box: http://www.thediceshoponline.com/dic...-x-D6-Dice-Set

Those are 12mm dice, which is smaller than the standard 16mm dice.

I personally prefer 16mm dice (or larger) so:

http://www.thediceshoponline.com/dic...-six-sided-dic

Poisoned: http://www.thediceshoponline.com/dic...6-6-Sided-Dice

Frozen for how many turns? http://www.thediceshoponline.com/dic...sided-dice-set

Heroes Life dice: http://www.thediceshoponline.com/dice-search/D30

Oh, Shadow Energy: http://www.thediceshoponline.com/dice-search/D10
03-15-2013, 10:17 PM
danae

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raphael Majere

...
One could play mtg 'nude' with just some coins but it's not possible with SE.
...

I don't see why you can't be nude in SE as well. It's as simple as taking off your clothes. :p

Not sure what you're trying to cover up with those coins though... Personally I don't think I'd like to play physical cards if people are going to be nude in front of me. Or is that some kind of format type like draft? Strip MTG/SE? :D
03-15-2013, 10:32 PM
Preybird

Danae, depends on who your playing partner is I guess ;)
03-15-2013, 11:18 PM
snow_man

Danae... It's called strategy. I keep your eyes looking elsewhere. (generally away from my direction and cards...but hey the effect still works the same.)
03-15-2013, 11:32 PM
FDL

Well, this quickly drifted towards digital playmates.
03-16-2013, 12:14 AM
Demnchi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fou DeLile

Well, this quickly drifted towards digital playmates.

Huh? I thought we were talking about physical here? Or has Kyle finally managed to allow us to play the game through web cams?

:p
03-16-2013, 12:48 AM
Raphael Majere

Quote:

Originally Posted by danae

I don't see why you can't be nude in SE as well. It's as simple as taking off your clothes. :p

Not sure what you're trying to cover up with those coins

Sometimes, mtg cards needs tokens/counters, but comparatively speaking needs less peripherals than SE. (Most of the time)

Allies in mtg regain full life at end of turn so no need for allies life dice.
03-16-2013, 12:59 AM
Manila Gorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demnchi

I think they're trying to avoid physical bonuses because of what happened last time. Honestly, I think offering no physical bonuses wasn't a good idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gondorian

You'll need to buy the complete set to get them this time, Caitlyn.

oh, wow.... well thanks for the heads up, I guess I wont need to keep checking back to the pre-order web page to see when Foils will be released.

this was the one thing I was waiting for too.
03-16-2013, 01:07 AM
JUSTICAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fou DeLile

Well, this quickly drifted towards digital playmates.

Oh aside from the digital playmats... were also gonna have digital playmates... so cool !!!
03-16-2013, 01:51 AM
kidatheart87

Would they wear bunny headbands or something? :D
03-16-2013, 08:51 AM
Geckt

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidatheart87

Would they wear bunny headbands or something? :D

Err, I don't think you mean to see a xcam gag for SE did you? :eek:

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