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    • Ban List for Rated in v3.60




      As previously mentioned in the v3.55 Playtesting Update, we will be enforcing a Ban List for Rated Multiplayer matches in v3.60. Please note that Unrated, Campaign and Meltdown will be unaffected.


      BAN LIST FOR RATED IN V3.60

      These cards are not usable in Rated Multiplayer in v3.60, but can still be used in Unrated, Campaign and Meltdown:

      - Into the Forest
      - Lay Low
      - Soul Reaper
      - Armor of Ages
      - Crescendo



      RATIONALE

      We have created a Ban List and chosen these five cards for it because:
      - It is the shared belief of the Shadow Era Design Team that having these five cards in the game does more harm than good.
      - All five of these cards have been specifically mentioned in complaints about "stall decks" and "negative playing experiences" for the past seven years, with a marked increase over the past year.
      - Implementing a trial Ban List for v3.60 is a very very low cost way to both test our hypothesis that the game will be better without these cards and also attempt to improve the environment in response to the player complaints.


      WHY NOT INCLUDE OTHER CARDS?

      We know other cards have been suggested to be banned (e.g. Rain Delay), but we can currently see enough redeeming qualities in them that make them worth keeping.

      These five cards (Into the Forest, Lay Low, Soul Reaper, Armor of Ages and Crescendo), on the other hand, would never be designed and added into the game today because they enable and promote a type of playing style that the vast majority of people dislike facing, which really is not great for player retainment!


      FUTURE PLANS

      After we have had time to witness the impact of the Ban List, we will be able to make a much more informed decision from the options available to us.

      For example, for each individual card, we could:
      - Keep that card on the Ban List permanently and compensate any players with that card for the playability restriction we have imposed.
      - Design a new card based on the redeeming features of the original, which can be given free to any players owning the banned card.
      - Remove that card from the Ban List and admit actually it does have a place in the game.
      - Errata the card in an attempt to make it not so harmful.

      These are listed in order of likelihood based on what we know today, but they are all potential options to consider for each of these cards (and any others that raise their ugly heads in the future).


      COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS?

      We understand some people will not be happy about this move, even if it may only be temporary to gather information, so feel free to air your grievances below! Similarly, please post any questions you have ... or even positive feedback about this.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: Ban List for Rated in v3.60 started by Gondorian
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      1. Gondorian's Avatar
        Gondorian -
        Hi all! I still believe leaving the Ban List as a permanent thing is the wrong move, and clearly there was not much support for having a Restricted List instead, so I think the next proposal should be to experiment with some balance changes to these cards for the digital version of the game for a few versions and see how it goes. By no means would I announce these are permanent changes at this stage (who knows if they are even the right ones?), but trying out changes in the digital version is very easy to do and might well be the best course of action at this time.
      1. jonmaciel's Avatar
        jonmaciel -
        I agree with that. Anything that restricts the overall viability or useability of the card pool only harms the game. If we can rebalance or redesign these problem cards, I think it would be for the better.
      1. Veles's Avatar
        Veles -
        I have good news then! Design Team is currently working on reevaluation and rebalancing of cards on the ban list.
      1. Archm4ge's Avatar
        Archm4ge -
        Well, I quitted the game for awhile due to the banned list. I feel that its not in line with the "Spirit of Creativity" and "the sheer diversity of strategies to take down your opponent" that Shadow Era promotes and it kinda upsets me. I do still login daily for the free card n still very much care about this game, because its my #1 best game since Call Of The Crystals.

        So any updates for the banned list rework? My suggestion is to leave the old cards as they are but create more new Neutral cards that can counter them. For example, create a new card that counters Hidden of "Into The Forest" and introduce it to newbies in the single player campaign. Like have an npc bestow them the new card during battle, and bids the player to try it. In that way, new players will know the existence of such counter cards and wont get annoyed when encountering such banned decks during multiplayer.

        (if the appropriate counters are already in existence, all we need to do is to let the newer players know of them through campaign/tutorial. I am sure most of the older players are used to playing against the banned cards in the past)
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